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If you know it's not a "forever" thing, do you end it when you start drifting apart? Or do you spend the time together because you get along and gain from the other? How do you know when you've gotten everything from it that you should? Or am I overanalyzing once more?
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Wed, October 28, 2009 - 6:40 PMAlso, he's an INFP, if that makes a difference (as I'm sure it does). You'd think I'd be less mystified, given the shared traits. :-/ -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 4:12 AMWith the INFP the feeling of 'drifting apart' is unavoidable from one point. Do you feel there's nothing more to gain from the relationship? INFPs can be rather complex and they are not exactly stagnant, either. You're the one who feels 'distanced'?
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 11:44 AMI don't want to be stagnant, either...I think that's part of my frustration. But I should probably be more patient, and not jump the gun. I think there is still a lot to get from our relationship. I feel we are both really preoccupied at this time, but I shouldn't assume that's a permanent condition (I tend to do that). I know he's patient with my moods, so I will try to be as well. -
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Thu, October 29, 2009 - 12:05 PMHow do you communicate with the INFP? Don't you feel as if you're in a dance with ..your shadow? -
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Thu, October 29, 2009 - 1:53 PMWhen I am not upset, we communicate really well. Intellectually, we're very in sync, and have similar values. The problem comes when I feel something is "wrong" and have a hard time explaining it logically. Even though he's an INFP, I'm much more towards the intuitive and emotional end, while he wants to discuss everything in a very rational way. That's really our only issue (besides our future plans not matching up at all...but that can't be helped). -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, October 29, 2009 - 2:26 PMThe INFP and 'rational discussion'? you mean he appears calm and all ... but rational? yes, INFPs seem to operate intuitively on a dimension different from that of dom.introverted intuitives, although they can know a great deal of things about people. It's as if the information comes through a different channel.
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 10:58 PMWell, my patience ran out. Can't force a connection that isn't there, I guess. It's okay though, I'm sure we'll be friends...I am probably best off alone right now.
It's really funny...it turns out that his (other) ex is an awful lot like me, even though he didn't know these things when we first started dating. Apparently she is an INFJ too. Interesting! -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Tue, November 3, 2009 - 6:16 AMI dated an INFP for 5 years. It was a great, functional relationship but didn't have any real "spark". Basically, it was like dating my best friend (who, incidently, is also an INFP). I didn't feel like the relationship was ever really going to "go" anywhere, so I ended it. We're still friends, though. When to end it? I dunno. I figured it was time to end it when I realized that I didn't really want our relationship to go any further. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 1:22 PMIt's strange, INFPs are considered hot. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 4:00 PMSays who? Not in my book. Maybe attractive in a sweet way but I wouldn't use the word "hot". Then again I am apparently not current with what "hot" means. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 10:59 AMshifty: "Then again I am apparently not current with what "hot" means. "
Well, it's often hard to see the side you're on ;)
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:53 PMI don't know how any one type could be considered hot, since it depends entirely on what you're attracted to. I like intelligence, kindness, good values...and of course physical attraction is just that, and not a type thing. I guess that's what makes it such a crapshoot. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 7:27 PMI dunno...I can honestly say that I am not very attracted to someone physically if there isn't some sort of personality connection. I can say that some people are physically and visually attractive but I am much more drawn to someone's personality than anything else. For me, that has always seemed a little weird because I KNOW that people look good but I think attraction is a whole different thing for me. I can honestly say that the notion of physical attraction is very foreign to me and for the most part it's emotions and connecting mentally. I think you can always have the physical with anyone, in any which way, where ever, but attraction is just something completely different to me. I want to connect with someone I am attracted to.
As far as the INFP's I have known in my life I don't get that with them.
They seem for the most part very sweet.
I guess I could be surprised but I would think that I would probably either really anger, irritate or take things too far with one.
And I would probably think it was good for them and I don't think INFP's like to be pushed. They get really angry when they are pushed.
I think sometimes everyone needs a good shove.
So when I think about if someone is attractive, I think I want to connect with them, and if I want to do that, then I project possible future possibilities with them, so it's difficult for me to imagine just physical attraction to someone.
Is anyone else as convoluted as I am??
Ha!
Ed, I didn't number that so I hope I didn't loose you in the rambling paragraph :p, but I know you also always talk about pretty much not dating unless you can see yourself marrying that person.
Am I right?
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 8:56 PMShifting, I think you took what I said differently than how I meant it. I'm not saying the two are separate from each other. Personality is definitely the major factor, but I don’t discount physical chemistry at all. A person would need to have some attributes I found attractive (and I would expect no less from them). I know I don’t want someone to overlook my physical appearance entirely, I want them to be attracted to me in that way too. If I’m not their type, someone else will be.
If someone who was the blonde, super-muscular, all-american football player type happened to have the best personality in the world, I still could not be attracted to him. I truly believe there is a person out there made for me, who I will desire madly on all levels. I’m sure that person has the mental, emotional, and physical characteristics I’m most attracted to. Not perfect (no such thing), just perfect for ME. I think we are attracted to different people because they have some of the qualities our inner magnet is looking for…and it’s magnetized towards one person. It might sound silly to a lot of people, but that’s okay. I believe in soul mates, and if I still do after all the jaded crap I’ve been through, I’m pretty sure my belief isn’t going anywhere. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 9:06 PMNO no..I didn't take it the wrong way at all.
I seriously don't have a physical "type" I am attracted to more than others.
That's all I'm getting at.
I think it's kinda weird to be honest.
I think it's possible for some to have a ....more perfect mate for them... but I'm curious how often that person actually ends up in a different role in our lives than the ideal of having them as a lover.
I guess I'm curious if others think that your "ideal mate" has to fit into the role of your lover/life partner/soulmate/spouse/whatever you wanna call it. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 9:40 PM1) Shif- No need to number, just do bullets instead. I do follow what you are saying much better though.
2) We already talked about "hotness" way back in "What is Considered Hot to an INFJ" by Ed.
3) You are right. I will not date a WOMAN (I will not date a girl-a girl implies immaturity) unless:
I) She is an ESTP
II) I see marriage as a possibility
-ESTP is the qualifier for a woman to date me.
4) Don't worry. I do not need to date to find out a woman's personality type. I will do the scouting before hand.
5) Physical hotness is somewhat important to me (I am a guy-almost a man).
-I prefer redheads.
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 10:05 PMSounds like a plan.
Ed knows exactly what he wants.
That's awesome.
I'm really hoping your still posting to tribe when you get your happily ever after!!
:D
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 1:57 PMAwesome, Ed. Name it to claim it.
I want an INxx. With brown hair, nice eyes and superior intelligence who is somewhat insane.
Give us what we want, Universe! Please. :-) -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 6:18 PMAre you guys laughing at me, or just happy for me?
It doesn't matter either way I guess. INFJs always have too big of dreams.
Don't worry Shif, I will still post here if/when I find the woman I hope to have.
Wait, what am I saying, I am a bad ass, the correct way of rephrasing that last line is "when I find the woman I will have".
INxx, brown hair, nice eyes, and superior intelligence who is somewhat insane Rachel? Huh, sounds like me. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 6:33 PMAh well, too bad I am no ESTP! Hell no! :-p
I don't think either of us was laughing at you...I was impressed you were so certain about what you want. Most people aren't. But then, we're bad-asses...
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 6:39 PMNo, I'm not making fun of you at all.
I really wish other people were as sure of themselves and what they want, it can be frustrating sometimes to feel like the only person who knows exactly how things should be.
But I guess in our idealism and "big dreams" maybe sometimes it seems unrealistic to other people.
I'm not talking about you Ed, I'm just rambling in general.
It's like when my friends say " why do you think that?" and I always say " I just know"
I don't think that always sits very well with a lot of people. I guess what I "know" doesn't always make a lot of sense or isn't a good enough reason for most people.
It's a shame really.
The world would be a much better place.
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 3:53 AMI was using the word 'hot' in the classic sense - chemistry stuff. It's true that it all depends on the persons who interact there. However, let's say INFPs can have pretty ok (I'm not going to say 'high') hormonal levels, so to speak. It's true though that INFJs are not at all lacking in this respect, either ;-). -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 12:42 AMI get you on that knowing but not knowing why part, Shifting, as well as being attracted to the inner person (I guess everyone is saying that here too?). In high school the hot looking popular guys were often a turn off for me. I liked them to have a depth of character and enough physical prowess that I didn't feel like I had to protect us both if there was trouble.
Years ago I imagined that I would be with an Asian guy who would be a good friend and be physically savvy. But funny thing about tuning into those unknown knowing feelings - sometimes they get a little cross-wired. I actually met my match at an Asian Kung Fu dojo but he turned out to be a Brit.
Sometimes I wonder if I know what will unfold because I desire it or because I'm simply picking up on the most ultimate plan that is lining up for me from all the hope, thoughts and desires I'd been sending out.
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 12:20 PMEd: "Are you guys laughing at me, or just happy for me?"
We're INFJ's, Ed. We would never laugh at you. What you see is a lot closer to affectionate teasing. Kinda like picking on our collective kid brother ;) -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 8:04 PMThat was exactly the thought I had. Waylon..."what INFJ would make fun of you for that?" :-) -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 5:30 AMHuh. Really?
I laugh and make fun of you guys behind your back.
I thought you would be terrible people and do the same.
INFJs-too nice. -
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Re: How to you know when to end a relationship?
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 5:55 AMEd: "I laugh and make fun of you guys behind your back."
Pfft. You do not. You're jam packed full of fuzzy wuzzy luvvies for everyone just like the rest of us. Group hug!
We're not too nice, we're just Humanity 2.0 :)
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