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Was watching human behavior today - my life long hobby. And today's was a bit of the human condition as it was at the hospital where my grandfather lay writhing in discomfort needing more morphine. My aunt was trying to communicate with him and an uncle was talking to a priest. As usual, when I'm not engaged in the process of personal communication I am watching things like they are on TV or under a microscope. How sad to watch pain in others.
It had been my life's mission to try to head mine and others pain, off at the pass because there's not much to do when it goes full blown (prob. started out as a childhood protective mechanism). It is why I watch so closely for the pattern in human behavior - patterns that come before the actual action. Because that's where you can make the greatest change. So many people only see their actions not the patterns that come before it.
Is it being INFJ that causes one to study others as if they are a strange new species or maybe like they are the normal ones and we are the martians trying to figure out how to fit into their strange reality? Many don't see so many things that I see and there is so much pain because of what they don't see.
No judgment on them but as Ed has mentioned a few times that we see things others don't so I was starting to wonder if that was why I never seemed to fit it with a lot of the human race or my family. They seem to want to talk but few want to hear. Any thoughts?
It had been my life's mission to try to head mine and others pain, off at the pass because there's not much to do when it goes full blown (prob. started out as a childhood protective mechanism). It is why I watch so closely for the pattern in human behavior - patterns that come before the actual action. Because that's where you can make the greatest change. So many people only see their actions not the patterns that come before it.
Is it being INFJ that causes one to study others as if they are a strange new species or maybe like they are the normal ones and we are the martians trying to figure out how to fit into their strange reality? Many don't see so many things that I see and there is so much pain because of what they don't see.
No judgment on them but as Ed has mentioned a few times that we see things others don't so I was starting to wonder if that was why I never seemed to fit it with a lot of the human race or my family. They seem to want to talk but few want to hear. Any thoughts?
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 5:49 AMMichelle,
Humans are naturally stupid creatures (even INFJs and me). We are naturally inclined to be lazy and back off when things get complicated. We therefore exercise our intuition very little and it is left there to sit in our brains,and get fat watching Oprah.
Most people are not INFJs as you know, so therefore their primary usage function is likely ooes not Intuiting. Most of the population are extroverted sensors, who exercise their senses much more so and leave their intuition rotting. It comes naturally to us to use our intuition, because it has been exercised much more over time. We therefore can imagine more, and think of possibilities in the future that most would think are impossible or non-sensical to the situation. With time and experience, our intuitions often become more powerful and correct.
We are not aliens. We are just the people who exercise our intuition more, thereby causing us to appear to have larger brains, and therefore larger heads. So we may appear alien-like. -
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 8:04 AMOk Ed, I'm going to start a thread for you so we can talk about Ed. Seriously....I'm calling for an intervention. I think Ed needs love, or maybe just a small hug. Did that make you cringe a little? College is supposed to be fun and believe me it's one of the few opportunities to be around so many different people at the same time. You more likely to meet someone there...than a smaller social environment. Also the older you get the harder it gets, so go out there and find someone special ....or just someone, and breathe, smile, listen. I'm guessing you are Type A personality. SLOW DOWN :D
That aside, Michelle I do the same things and I often feel like I have fishbowl syndrome, somedays on the inside looking out and other days on the outside looking in, but the rest of the world is always on the opposite side of where I am. I see patterns and I often want to point them out to people, knowing exactly where they are headed or the situation they are in is headed, and I have to stop myself because it seems that they don't want tot hear that, they just want someone to listen.
I do have moments where I think something will be very dangerous and I will say something, or I will try to use a metaphor or be subtle with my communication so it's left up to their interpretation. I've found that I have developed probably 100 different ways to say the same thing depending on who I am speaking to because I usually know the best way that they will receive the message. And it's frustrating. Sooooo frustrating. I get so angry that people keep doing the same things over and over again, that the human race does the same things over and over again despite all the patterns and examples we have that say - don't do that.
I make plenty of mistakes, and I'm sure there is a method to my madness. I often wonder if I have these same patterns, and I try desperately to figure them out.
I have always related to " Those that can't do, Teach"
I will say that even as a child, I am the type of person who will watch someone do something, analyze it to then find the best way to do it for myself.
For example, I am not the first person to climb the fence, I will see how someone else does it first, and then maybe find the gate, ha!
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 11:26 AMShif,
You would be surprised of how many people like me. I am surprised. I cannot qualify most of them as friends, because one has to be a bad ass or listen and believe everything I say to be my friend.
I think it is because I am just straight up honest with people. People love it when I tell the truth, no matter the situation. They think I am often sarcastic or an asshole, but I am just telling the truth. Its funny, people like dicks like me. They end up coming back to me and saying, "wow Ed, you were right".
Shif, I really do not have any big problems. I work with homeless people, who have many more problems. I am thankful for what I have. When a person has no house, no friends, few clothes, little food, mental problems, drug problems, family problems, faces subzero temperatures, etc. like most homeless do, you find out what a person really believes is important. I have come to find that most have stronger faith in God and themselves than most people who have a lot of stuff like us.
People just need to get the stick out of their ass and stop trying to blend in or conform to society and settle for less. I prefer that people live everyday and push themselves to become better and serve others.
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 4:24 PMEd, I agree.
Totally.
Also I was kinda joking.
I'm sure lots of people like you, thats not what I was getting at.
I just think you need someone to love :)
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 4:27 PM"I get so angry that people keep doing the same things over and over again, that the human race does the same things over and over again despite all the patterns and examples we have that say - don't do that."
It is very difficult to watch people do stupid things. But, you have to see them in their highest light, and not allow them to suck you into their lower vibrations. There is no reason you should be angry because of the actions of others. They are all doing the best they can on the paths they have chosen, and are learning lessons as they go, as you are. How arrogant would it be for me to assume to know what is best for anyone, not knowing what their soul contracts are with the other persons involved, not knowing what their higher self is directing them to do? I cannot hardly run my own life correctly, and I sure as hell dont want to have to run anyone else's life. -
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Fri, September 25, 2009 - 6:00 PMTrue.
I guess sometimes I see people I love repeat very self destructive behaviors and choices and it really makes me angry, but I guess I have a choice whether to observe or participate so I guess I could just try to ignore the obvious bad decisions of others.
I am pretty sure it's not possible for me to see others in their "highest light", I don't own rose colored glasses. It's safe to assume I don't see myself in my "highest light" either. I'm a perfectionist and rarely think that anything IS what it could be.
I don't think someone's higher self is directing them to get into abusive relationships, develop a drug problem, start wars, continue racism, slavery and genocide.
As far as humanity as a whole, I'm not saying I could do it better but I'm also not very impressed. It seems historically we keep doing the same things over and over and I am skeptical to think that we have made actual progress. I guess that all depends on what you consider progress and by what standard of measurement.
I'm just not that impressed with humans in general. I guess my percentage of exposure is minimal and limited considering there are something like 3 billion people in the world. -
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 3:42 AM***"I often feel like I have fishbowl syndrome, somedays on the inside looking out and other days on the outside looking in, but the rest of the world is always on the opposite side of where I am. I see patterns and I often want to point them out to people, knowing exactly where they are headed or the situation they are in is headed, and I have to stop myself because it seems that they don't want tot hear that, they just want someone to listen."***
Fishbowl syndrome, I like that visual...oops almost wrote it as fishbowel syndrom, lol...sometimes feels like that... maybe a Freudian slip.
As for seeing people in their highest light I'm not sure we exactly know what that is but what I attempt to do - because it's actually what I feel from them (behind their actions)- is just who they are when they are feeling aligned and empowered. For some I imagine them as they are when they are laughing and maybe for others how they come alive with their paintbrush. We really don't have to focus on reality, in fact, I now do much better focusing on the reality I wish rather then what is before me. Anyway, with the wave/particle slit experiment science now has the idea that we find the results that we go looking for or tune our eyes to see (we all have glasses on everyday we just chose consciously or unconsciously what color they are going to be).
***"I don't think someone's higher self is directing them to get into abusive relationships, develop a drug problem, start wars, continue racism, slavery and genocide."***
Goodness no, why would the higher self direct someone in a direction that takes them from their center? The idea of the higher self is the aspect of the self that is that pulse of alignment - who you are when you are at your best. It is that you-ness that is caught in the sublime moment of a deep belly laugh (it is when we forget to flip the off switch on our inner light and instead of fearing in the dark we glow).
Sorry, I think I'm waxing philosophical - I'm a little punch drunk - it's 3:33am and just got my homework emailed to the instructor. Been a bit behind this long week, Grandpa transitioned out yesterday...sadness but also joy in his birthing out of pain in the physical world (husband said that at the hospital they often call it a celestial discharge, nice:).
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Re: Are we the aliens or are they?
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 3:15 AM))"But, you have to see them in their highest light, and not allow them to suck you into their lower vibrations. There is no reason you should be angry because of the actions of others. They are all doing the best they can on the paths they have chosen, and are learning lessons as they go, as you are."((
Yeah Dave, as a support person I had to learn a long time ago to try to do exactly as you've written or else arrogance and judgment would cast an unhealthy shadow on my life experience as well as my clients and friends.
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