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I'm an INFJ and a Santeria priest. I have a religious tabu from my initiation 11 years ago that I may not mentor anyone. I've never forgotten the great post (though I've forgotten who wrote it) here that described how people just took it for granted we were happy to be on call as a "Just Add Water and Stir Yoda." Over the past four weeks FOUR of these people popped up in my life demanding that I "mentor them" in exactly what way I do not know but i got the general impression they desperatelky needed social skills, without offering any financial recompense to me. Each claimed to be some strain of the NT Temperment type and the worst were INTPs. They wanted to absorb all the learning and intuiting I have done over 50 years and they did not offer even a Franklin in recognition of how much struggle and individuation it cost ME - they just wanted to snatch it for themselves without a by your leave and without any equal exchange of value. Flattery was their currency and it was, in my sight, totally counterfeit values they tried to use to buy me..
I have utterly cut the worst one from my life. He is utterly , eternally, amputated. Two others who had religious training reluctantly understood but stlil offered no compensation despite the fact that many thousands of dollars were paid by them in university tuition and which tuition apparently did not get them what they believed they could get from me. Not a Franklin? Hell no $5, ten bucks, to get the pre-masticated meaning that all I have broken my jaw to earn they thought to seize for themselves based on some self-announced need to have me do their work for them. These people I do not think are BAD people, but piggish, selfish and unappreciative people. I can't say they were all NTs but they claimed to be based on some unnormed internet test yet they all did seem like NT's to me despite that.
Do other INFJs have any simioar problems with people taking an entitlement attitude, offering no reinbursement for the INFJ's "mentoring." I told my husband (INTP) I'm not doing anything for anyone unless they 1. request my help and 2. hand me a Franklin to get the process STARTED. Something is wrong with these people who feel entitled to the lessons of my life experience and they are not going to get it. No not one of them. I feel put upon, manipulated and left with no support. it feels god to me to release these people who are sucking my life energy so rudly from my life.
Zed
I have utterly cut the worst one from my life. He is utterly , eternally, amputated. Two others who had religious training reluctantly understood but stlil offered no compensation despite the fact that many thousands of dollars were paid by them in university tuition and which tuition apparently did not get them what they believed they could get from me. Not a Franklin? Hell no $5, ten bucks, to get the pre-masticated meaning that all I have broken my jaw to earn they thought to seize for themselves based on some self-announced need to have me do their work for them. These people I do not think are BAD people, but piggish, selfish and unappreciative people. I can't say they were all NTs but they claimed to be based on some unnormed internet test yet they all did seem like NT's to me despite that.
Do other INFJs have any simioar problems with people taking an entitlement attitude, offering no reinbursement for the INFJ's "mentoring." I told my husband (INTP) I'm not doing anything for anyone unless they 1. request my help and 2. hand me a Franklin to get the process STARTED. Something is wrong with these people who feel entitled to the lessons of my life experience and they are not going to get it. No not one of them. I feel put upon, manipulated and left with no support. it feels god to me to release these people who are sucking my life energy so rudly from my life.
Zed
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Re: People Expecting (demanding) that you be their mentor?
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:49 AMI do not think I am as advanced as you are in any field to expect payment for my mentoring. But I'm often come to for advice and secret-keeping, and it's sort of a given that they can do that with me. it's no stress on my psyche and it actually helps me to focus on other people's problems.
But then, I always wanted to be a psychologist.
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Re: People Expecting (demanding) that you be their mentor?
Mon, May 19, 2008 - 11:58 AMI definitely have come to the same conclusion about being asked for help first, and not manipulated into it. Manipulation feels like it lacks humility and unwillingness to admit a need for help...and even if subconsciously those people want help, they don't know what to do with it when they get it. I try to always express gratitude for help I've received, because it's horrible to be sucked dry by emotional vampires and I certainly don't want to be that person.
Funny, I've run across some NTs who seem to be eager for my emotional or intuitive interpretation of things also, although I have no religious or psychological training so don't know about the compensation issue. But it's as though your hard-earned life wisdom is just more knowledge to be tucked away, and not really integrated or experienced. Or maybe they just want a magic bullet for instant social awareness!