what do you do for a living??

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Just curious about us on this tribe-
I am a mental health counselor and I work for a SA treatment hospital currently. I have worked with mentally ill adults in the "system" for years and years.
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  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Fri, August 6, 2004 - 12:48 AM
    Ha Ha
    I'm a therapist and social worker - I currently work at a dialysis clinic and I'm working to start my own therapy practice.
    wonder how many of us are serving the public in some way..
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      Fri, August 6, 2004 - 10:00 AM
      right now i am finishing up a bachelors degree in environmental studies (focusing on sustainable urban development) but work as an office assistant in the school counseling department.
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    Fri, August 6, 2004 - 11:02 AM
    I have worked with youth for many years as a counselor, case manager, and most recently school counselor. I'm taking a break from that right now to work with the staff of a school district on professional development and teacher retention via facilitated support groups, but am starting a charter high school for alternative youth opening Aug 2, 2005. I'm also a tarot reader and life coach.

    In my volunteer life, I continue to work with youth at our local LGBTQ Center, am on staff at Diana's Grove (www.dianasgrove.com), and a whole lot of other volunteer stuff.

    I'm guessing most of serve people in some way!
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    Fri, August 6, 2004 - 8:11 PM
    As I mentioned in a previous thread (The INFJ and Working for a Living), I have been:
    * a nuclear engineer in Toledo;
    * an actuarial student in Manhattan;
    * an underwriter in Phoenix;
    * a consulting actuary in Manhattan and then in Somerset, New Jersey;
    * a stock plans manager in Morristown, New Jersey;
    * a compensation manager in Allentown, Pennsylvania;
    * a pensions manager in Berkeley Heights, New Jersey; and
    * a health & welfare benefits consultant in Warrington, Pennsylvania.

    I now work as a client administrator for an executive benefits practice in Princeton. My job is, essentially, to help the rich stay rich. I feel like a little bit of my soul dies each day I'm at work.

    On the morning show of a local radio station yesterday, the topic of the hour was "useless college degrees". Some study just came out that indicated that the most lucrative college degree is chemical engineering, while the least lucrative is psychology. When I heard that, I just *had* to call. *I* have a degree in chemical engineering, which hasn't proved to be the least bit useful in my current field of financial services. Wait, there's more! I'm pursuing a master's in counseling psychology. My career path is going around in circles -- as well as backwards.
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      Fri, August 6, 2004 - 9:56 PM
      i have a master's in counseling psychology. heh, i see a bit of a pattern here. : )
      my work right now is social worky type stuff for kids with developmental disabilities and their families. i've worked as a vocational counselor and with families who are in trouble because of abuse or neglect of their kids.
      i've always been a writer, though not for money.
      this thread makes me think that a lot of healing wouldn't be present in the world were it not for infjs. yay us!
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        Sat, August 7, 2004 - 8:26 AM
        Hi Teresa,

        Tell me more about your work in vocational counseling. I am drawn to career counseling, with the idea that I'd like to help other people in the way that I myself was not helped at critical junctures in my education as well as along my career path. (Had only *one* guidance or career counselor taken five minutes to ask me, "You, Denise, engineering? Do you like taking things apart and putting them back together again? Do you have any spatial relations or mechanical reasoning abilities whatsoever?" -- well, that would have saved me *lots* of heartache 20 years ago.)

        Denise, who is spending the weekend working on a research proposal titled, "When the Best and Brightest Can't Get Hired: Multipotentiality, Job-Hopping, and Long-Term Involuntary Unemployment"
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          Sat, August 7, 2004 - 9:08 AM
          Yowza,

          I've just gotten my MS in Counseling, too--specialization in Marriage and Family Therapy. I work in higher education right now....not sure about the long road towards licensure for Marriage and Family Therapy here in California.

          There defintely seems to be a pattern here at the INFJ group!
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            Fri, August 13, 2004 - 9:44 PM
            Professor of English lit.

            I specialize in 20th century poetry, because it's difficult, and mythology, because as a metaphoric system, it addresses multiple dimensions of being.

            I thought about being a psychotherapist and the whole INFJ ultra-empathy thing gives me a talent for it, but it also means I kinda suck at boundaries and not taking on other people's stuff--bad for a therapist. Also, I realized, just in time, that I really only wanted intelligent, articulate mostly functional neurotics for clients, and that the real world of clinical practice doesn't exactly work that way.

            Teaching college pretty much does though.
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              Sat, August 14, 2004 - 12:04 PM
              Shannon
              I've always thought about being a teacher, ...in some ways the therapy I have done (family therapy and for parents of emotionally disturbed teens) has had an educational component to it some role modeling better boundaries, or appropriate discipline, etc.
              One of my favorite jobs was being a psycho-educational facilitator for a group of kids going through family divorce issues.
              :)
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      Re: what do you do for a living NOW??

      Sat, February 19, 2005 - 12:58 PM
      As an update to the response that I posted just over six months ago, I am writing to say that I am currently doing NOTHING for a living.

      Regarding my last job, I previously mentioned: "I feel like a little bit of my soul dies each day I'm at work."

      Sometimes I don't give myself credit for taking really big risks -- risks that other people would consider stupid. I have since quit said job. Many people -- especially my parents -- thought that that was an asinine thing to do, considering that I am my sole support as well as 50% support for my daughters (who don't live with me). However, I knew that the job was *killing* me. As much as I complain about and am fearful about going through another long bout of unemployment, I do know that this is still better than still being at that God-forsaken job. (And better yet, I was able to prove to the satisfaction of the New Jersey Department of Labor and Workforce Development that I quit my job with "good cause attributable to the work" (i.e., depression and anxiety that required medical attention) -- so I'm collecting unemployment!)

      Now that I have so much time on my hands again, it has occurred to me that this would be a good time to finish my degree. During my last bout of unemployment (which lasted 20 months), I began pursuing an M. S. in Counseling Psychology at Capella University. I have now completed all of the degree requirements except for practicum. I have since realized that even if I did complete the degree and become a Licensed Professional Counselor in Pennsylvania, I wouldn't be able to support myself, much less fulfill my child support obligations. (That is probably something I should have investigated before I began the program.) So I'm tens of thousands of dollars in debt with student loans with nothing to show for it. But I do know that having something to keep me occupied during my unemployment literally kept me *alive*.

      I have long toyed with the idea of going into teaching, but there is no alternate route program in Pennsylvania. I would have to start ALL OVER AGAIN and get a four-year education degree. Instead, I will probably end up with another job in benefits administration, because that's what my resume says that I *can* do. *sigh*
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        Tue, May 3, 2005 - 4:16 PM
        Update to the update: For the past two days, I have been a due diligence analyst for pension plans at an investment management firm. I know what you're thinking: *yawn*.

        I have a gift...for ending up in jobs completely unsuited for my personality. But I gotta pay the bills...

        Denise
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          Fri, May 6, 2005 - 10:56 AM
          im about to graduate college and ive been thinking a lot about the next step i would like to consider. im really wanting to take ease into this and really evaluate my feelings/ interests.

          i have this intense desire to be a mail carrier. i think im romanticizing the idea a little bit- being able to walk around all day in the sun. to be by myself and maybe interact with my community a little. to recycle all the junk mail and find those special letters that were made with care and sent from one friend to the other. oh, that sounds fun.

          id also like to be in a library for some time. i really like to organize and the idea of a card catalogue sounds really cool. i also like that its quite and there is all this information at my finger tips.

          and then of course i want to be a poet who just writes about how i feel all day and then read it to people and make little chap books.

          and ive thought about being a counselor for queers and trans folks. or maybe some sort of teacher for environmental solutions/ sustainable living.

          and i think i've almost crossed off the idea of being an urban planner. i like it because it kinda goes back to that organizing idea, but i also think there are a lot of politics involved that can make the job really racist and classist which i dont like.

          it all makes sense to me, and it all makes no sense to me.
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            and what do you WANT to do?

            Fri, May 6, 2005 - 3:01 PM
            "and then of course i want to be a poet who just writes about how i feel all day and then read it to people and make little chap books."

            Meanwhile, for years I have said that what I *really* want to do is dress all in black, spend my mornings writing in a coffeeshop (not Starbucks -- too trendy), meet with friends in the afternoon to read *their* writings, and muse, "You, too? I thought that I was the only one."
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    Wed, August 25, 2004 - 4:49 PM
    Hi, I am a clinical herbalist and medical astrologer. I work with people that have not been helped by the allopathic and technological medical system. I am also involved as a political activist in distributive justice philanthropy. Sometimes I think I am an archetypal INFJ.
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      Tue, September 14, 2004 - 1:08 AM
      I worked as a professional singer dancer actor for many years... I went back to school and got a masters in spiritual psychology... now I'm waiting tables and making clothing with a partner... performing here and there...
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    Thu, January 20, 2005 - 11:36 AM
    My day job is bill collecting.

    But that doesn't count.

    What counts is that I am a Santería priest and I consult for people with my skills in Santería and also with my skills in dowsing.

    What counts is overtaking what doesn't count, just as it should ;-)
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      Thu, January 20, 2005 - 12:19 PM
      we all rule!
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        Thu, January 20, 2005 - 2:00 PM
        That brings up another interesting question actually.

        INFJ of all the types is supposed to be especially intuitively acute.

        How many here also work or have worked in mystical professions?

        I used to read tarot cards for a living. Did a bit of hands-on type of healing too for awhile. Got a little burnt out and decided to channel my Special Powers into teaching college students how to use their own intuitive responses when reading literature and writing about it. Same skills. Much less emotionally exhausting.
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          Mon, January 24, 2005 - 7:18 PM
          I'm all for less exhausting! Although I'm returning to counseling alternative school kids after a 5-year (and four funerals...all od's) much-neeeded break.

          I've been working with adult education and tarot readingpersonal growth as staff at a retreat center(www.dianasgrove.com) for several years, yet I know my true calling is to provide a safe environment for high school students. I'm starting a charter high school for 100 9-12 grade students opening August 2005 for youth who are seeking a safe place to be themselves: queer, punk, goth, brainy, shy, whatever. It may be more exhausting than the professional development I do now for teachers, but the break has done me a world of good.

          I appreciate everyone in this tribe for serving humankind in your own way!
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            Thu, January 27, 2005 - 5:50 AM
            >yet I know my true calling is to provide a safe environment for >high school students.

            here here! My true calling is to provide a safe environment for the world. This is why I'm slowly transitioning out of chemical engineering (working production projects for large corperations) into environmental engineering/science.
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              Fri, June 10, 2005 - 6:21 AM
              WOW! I've found my dream job in Seattle (See below). See you all later!

              Anyone looking for a job & feel like spraying naked, or semi- naked people with fake suntans? Deana Finch, the owner of "The Bronze Bar" on 1st Ave. is looking for someone to start immediately-- pay is $10-$15/hr + tips. She wants to hire a woman-- clients are (almost?) entirely female-- & is looking particularly for someone who can "make people feel comfortable naked." Job would be full time in the summer, part time the rest of the year, if you wanted to stay on. I told her that I'd post to this list!

              Call her asap at 374-8512 if you're interested.
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    Sun, January 23, 2005 - 4:04 PM
    i'm a yoga therapist. most of my students are terminally ill and are tired of traditional type therapies...i use yoga, meditation and a lot of dialogue to teach people ways of coping...


    i'm new to this group and i have to say...WOW - you're all amazing!

    ;-)
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    Tue, May 3, 2005 - 3:59 PM
    Writer, user interface designer (computers), filmmaker, artist, musician; not all these bring in the dough -- guess which ones. I'm an armchair psychologist -- I probably would have pursued that if I didn't have such a strong drive to create various sorts of media since I was a kid.
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    Wed, June 8, 2005 - 11:09 AM
    Hmmm... looks like I'm the odd one out. I'm a civil engineer who works in marine construction babysitting my inspectors, surveyors, and contractors (my job description calls it "construction management", but you and I know better). Not a typical career for an INFJ, I know. However, I get to spend half my time outdoors in the middle of the woods somewhere or on the water, and my people skills (much better than the average engineer!) give me kind of an edge in this line of work. There's surprisingly little technical skill required for this job anyway. Mostly it's all about communication between different levels of management and the people in the field. Except when one of the bulldozer operators brings a gun to work and shoots an alligator (which has only happened once, thank heaven). Then things get interesting.
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    Wed, June 15, 2005 - 11:23 PM
    At the moment I mostly worry about having a career. Mid-life career-change Master of Library and Information Science student here. Undergrad was English, last position was event planner. It was an exciting career and allowed me to work "behind the scenes" to do some pretty cool things, but it was also a very high stress position.

    I would have loved to have been a counselor, but I am at times too empathetic. As a librarian I can satisfy the need to help people and be introverted too. I am in agreement with Shannon on this, but teaching is not for me. Let them come to the reference desk and I will be glad to help, and I believe I will know just what they are looking for too!
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      Thu, July 7, 2005 - 10:57 PM
      Former professional concert dancer here, currently in the mystical arts of Reiki and Yoga. The healing arts are a passion of mine, as is writing. I am a returning student in a liberal arts college with plans of grad school for depth psychology.
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    Sat, November 5, 2005 - 8:47 PM
    After spending four fantastic undergraduate years studying art history and english literature (including studying abroad in Florence for a year), I found myself faced with the same question asked of double majors in English and Art History world-wide - that is, "Are you going to teach or are you going to law school?"

    With the knowledge that I loved studying and academia in general, but that I also liked my expensive highlights and the occasional pair of Prada moccasins, I decided to take the red pill (i.e. law school). And life began a slow downward spiral therefrom. I should have known I was in for bad times when my legal research and writing professor remarked on a paper, "Get rid of all of the adjectives."

    I decided last year that my existence essentially consisted of moving the same $1,000,000 from business to business in Los Angeles. This was a rather soul-depleting realization. So after five years of practicing, I quit.

    I suppose I am in "transition." I should use my law degree in some way, but my INFJ tendencies and my general hatred of conflict in general make me particularly poorly-suited for the practice (choosing the litigation track rather than corporate may not have been the best choice for an INFJ, in retrospect). I'm completely conflict-adverse and just want to do something positive at this point. I'm looking at non-profits at the moment.
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      Tue, November 8, 2005 - 6:00 AM
      I gave some thought to becoming a lawyer when I was younger, because I've always liked debating things with people. That might be a sort of contradiction, because like you and lots of other INFJ's, I really dislike conflict. In the end I decided to go into enigneering because I could do the math and I liked solving problems. Now I kind of wonder about my own choices, because it's not like I get a lot of personal fulfillment doing "contract administration" paperwork at my desk.

      And then there are other days when I'm out in the field, headed out to my dredge on a crew boat and I'm amazed that I'm actually paid money to spend time on the water and look at sand on the beach.

      Working for a non-profit group might be a good outlet for you. You'd be able to use that law degree in a less conflict-oriented way, and you could feel good because you would be working to make a positive difference in the world.
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    Sat, July 22, 2006 - 2:33 PM
    hello all...this is my first post on this tribe and i have to say how glad i am to have found you! life as an infj can be...strange...but once you realize there are other people like you (even if it is only 1-2%of the population) you feel a bit less lonely! As for what I do for a living, I have worked in social services for11 years now, even though i went to college for something completely different (music). I've worked extensively with adults with mental retardation. I currently run a daycare program for adults with Alzheimer's Disease, along with a program for elderly adults with MR. I also head that Alzheimer's Caregiver Support group. In my free time I perform in community theater and I'm an artist.(the medium depends on the day) Glad to meet you! Lori
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      Wed, July 26, 2006 - 9:33 PM
      I have a BA in psychology and worked in social services from 1995 to 2000 when I had my daughter, and since then I've been on full-time mommy duty.

      For the past few years I've been ebaying for spare change, and if I may engage in a bit of shameless self-promotion, here's my ebay store:
      stores.ebay.com/Denalynns-...-Convulsion

      I'm going back to school at the end of August for my M.L.S., and from there, who knows? Maybe I'll be working in a public library, frolicking in the stacks.
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        Thu, July 27, 2006 - 6:37 AM
        Just don't knock over all the shelves like dominoes. They get upset when you do that.
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          Mon, February 26, 2007 - 7:31 AM
          I find it fascinating that so many INFJ's are involved in phsychology/counseling work. I am currently a computer technician but I've lost my joy. I'm considering returning to school to receive a Master's in Community Counseling. I want my life to count for something. I've long stopped caring whether a computer gets installed or not.

          Thanks everyone for your posts, they were just what I needed to read. :o)
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    Mon, March 12, 2007 - 1:58 PM
    All I am is an artist right now.

    I have always had a day job, always needed one, I always adapted to them but really wanted to find a day job I'd like and be a total contrast from making art.

    Making art for me, highly detailed crosshatching is almost meditative, a state of mind women who knit might understand, but it can't be a social activity like knitting can because one must keep their visual attention focused when so much of real conversation is as much reading faces and gestures of people you're talking to as the words themselves...and I am not good at multitasking anyway. I also work in bursts, because I hate stopping and having to build up momentum to start again I'd rather let momentum carry me. As a result I could go for spurts of two to three days at a time of not speaking to anyone, not really eating, it feels like giving birth. It's always limited the amount of art I can do, because I go through periods of obsession and then crashes... in total solitude, almost a prisoner of my work. I need a day job that is very different. something that is social... something that takes me out of my inner world and makes me feel connected to people. If I have a bit of both in each vocation I am happy.

    But what usually happens is that I find that in my dayjobs I have not been able to find things that make me feel connected enough to other people. I worked with cerebral palsey one time and I liked aspects of it, I learned to feel connection with people on a non-intellectual level which probably saved me from being a total geek later on in life. But still, with the staff and the clients I didn't feel a real intellectual connection.

    With retail work I found interesting and quirky people, some of them really cool, but the pay was so low, and really customers can be arrogant pricks. It always galled me that a person who had no real culture, read no literature, just a well paid third level Tech MCSE who doesn't even have a degree talking to me as I served them their latte as if I were a stupid waste. No, retail was just too hard on the ego. And though I certainly needed to stop thinking like a snob, it didn't seem worth rubbing my face into at 7:00hr

    my last dayjob was Construction related work that I actually I liked at first. It can be like a brotherhood. It can attract some totally stupid people but most of them are actually very smart and just didn't care for academics, street smart, common sense... I got in with a somewhat criminal element because I liked weed back then, but more because I felt flattered and priveledged to be an insider with people who's culture I was not at all a part of and never pretended to be a part of. It was nice to be trusted, I almost felt like an anthropologist at first, there were many qualities I admired with this working class anti-hero snub your nose at authority crowd though I must admit I could never relate to the whole "gangst" front many of them were making. Sure, they did an illegal thing here and there but they were way more small time than they pretended to be.

    But I woke up to the reality that only a few of them were worthy of trust, that most would con or hustle anyone and were not exactly safe company, I liked that at first. Prowd of myself for being able to run with wolves and come out unscathed and all, I enjoyed the mental acrobatics and game of cat and mouse I got to play with people who really won't respect you unless they can't con you... but will always try. It's an art form almost, like a ballet between one another, how they'd play clueless as they backed gracefully out of one another's nets. I got hustled a few small times but I was almost more amused than mad and really it was never about grudges in a crowd like that. Most of them had pretty long rap sheets. The problem was, I really missed out on ever feeling true connection with them fun as it was, it's lonely in that crowd even if it's an adventure. I'm glad I ran with them, heck, they really taught me a lot... I overcame a lot of personal demons in their company.... but there's nothing more to get from them though I think of these interesting characters I associated with quite warmly and see them on rare occasions even now. I just know that for me to grow further I need to move on to a more functional cast of characters. There's only so long that you can surround yourself with people who belong in either Tom Waits tragedy songs about hustling and riding boxcars and gangsta rap video wannabees.

    I am going back to graduate school now, hope to go into psychology, not particularly because I really think I'm particularly wise but because I seem to be able to get people to open up and tell me their stories with ease and quite a bit of candor. Most people just need to talk things out and they usually find their own answers what they do. Helping people after all is not about telling them how to live, it's just about being curious and asking them the right questions. I like it, especially when I turn the same questions I ask them onto myself if I never asked myself that question before... that's when I usually learn something big. So I think psychology might be my thing, and given my experiance with my former crowd of freinds I might consider doing some of that practice for the state prison system, I'd be very comforable.... and I know most of the games by now. A typical person who never hung around that set with just an academic understanding of psychology would really get played every way but sunday, so I think in that case my past would be a professional asset.

    Once I have a really solid psychology practice I beleive I will have the flexibility to really throw myself into my art completely the way I work with the kind of dayjob that'd be a ballence to what my art demands of me.
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    Fri, March 16, 2007 - 11:23 PM
    What an interesting post!
    As for me...I was a psychology major in college but ultimately decided to practice medicine - and not psychiatry (although I was very drawn to the theory, I would have much rather chosen psychology over psychiatry if that were my path)!
    The counseling and education part of medicine is what I really love...that and the ability to connect to people when they need that connection the most.
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    Fri, March 30, 2007 - 8:06 AM
    I went to law school following my college graduation to study public interest environmental law. I do not recommend going to law school right out of college (to anyone, not just INFJ'ers). instead, take time to check out the real world and what you want out of life.

    While I finished the program I was very unhappy in law school, and have not pursued a career in the law. I work in environmental politics right now, though that is not fulfilling me, either. I realize that this is because I have been trying to do what I feel obligated to do to heal the world, and not what makes me happy.

    I am beginning to "study" myself to learn more about what I am really passionate about, and what kinds of things I naturally enjoy doing. Joining this INFJ tribe has been very helpful; particularly this thread! I also have a natural inclination for counseling, mentoring, and alternative healing:)

    My true passion is music, and I am looking into careers in the music industry. I need to move back to CA as well, for my own sanity:) No particular city requirements- I'll move where I can find a career that's a good fit for me.

    I don't know much about the music industry, though, and thought someone on this tribe who is already in the music industry might have some career suggestions for INFJ'ers. It seems I might be a good fit for street teams, marketing, promotions, event planning type stuff? I do a lot of volunteer promotions stuff for my fave band, ALO, and others in the general Jack Johnson genre right now ...

    At some point I'd like to combine my passion for ocean and coastal issues with music, but working from the music side, not the enviro organization side. Like maybe helping to organize festivals or benefits or something. That might help you identify career options for me, too.

    Any thoughts?

    THANK YOU!!!!
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      Fri, March 30, 2007 - 3:56 PM
      Interesting topic. :) I got my BA in Fine Art / Photography but realized shortly after college that I didn't have the passionto do photography professionally. It didn't interest me to do commercial Photography in the slightest so I spent a couple years after college in a "job" (not a career) mainly to figure out what in the hell I wanted to be when I grew up. I found though that the job was really holding me back from finding out my true self because it was a fun little escape to go to work and not figure myself out. I grew entirely sick of working for someone else and quit, pretty suddenly, with no direction as to where I was headed. I just knew I couldn't work at a place where I slowly climbed the corporate ladder. That's never been my style. After a year and a half of being unemployed in the traditional sense (I am blessed to have a very supportive partner) I'm now in school full time for alternative healing.

      It really is my calling in life and it's such a joy to know that this is what I'm here to do in the world. I'm also in the process of mentoring a 13-year old girl for an organization for at-risk youths in my city. I'm actually going to my first mentoring session with her tonight and I'm very excited! I've always felt called to counsel people and am looking into a career in behavioral health, and/or working with women and children in poverty.
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    Wed, January 2, 2008 - 6:52 AM
    I'm a classical musician who is forced to work in a wine bar to pay the bills, in addition to freelance chamber music gigs. It's not so bad as far as restaurant gigs go & the hours work well with my cello practice. Still, I wish I could just be a full-time musician.
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    Thu, January 3, 2008 - 3:00 AM
    I am working to pay the bills right now. Bouncing from job to job, although I am quite capable of being a workaholic and devoting my entire life to whatever boss seems to take an interest in my potential/unique contributions.

    What's sucky is that working isn't making me happy at all anymore. it's not that I'm lazy, I just have hit a rut of pointlessness.

    When I am attending classes I am a cultural anthropology and natural resources major. I've said that I would like to go into field research on subsistence and sustainability usage/issues. And eventually publish something brilliant-and be a professor . I'd also like to put a few years into the peace corps.

    Thing is, I checked out the grad materials at Naropa--and if I could resolve my spiritual doubts/crises/and had a strong faith system-I think I would really enjoy being an interfaith chaplain.

    I used to think I also would like being a park ranger, eco-tourist guide, a management consultant (of the leadership motivational sort), an army officer, a librarian, sex therapist, police officer--eventual hostage negotiator, heavy equipment operator, fema groundworker, primatologist, ranch manager, tai-chi instructor, bar tender, activist, and life/employment skills educator for at risk kids.

    Most of my instructors and friends have said I should be a lawyer or a therapist.
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    Fri, February 1, 2008 - 5:27 PM
    My degree is in Interior Design but I prefer to be an artist (abstract painter). I 've painted off and on for the last 20 yrs. I have two teens and have always preferred to work at home (husband travels a lot). I love doing and seeing anything visually creative...and often have some creative project going on. I am alone quite a bit during the day, but never lonely or bored.
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    Sat, March 8, 2008 - 12:49 PM
    I work in a special needs school now, have been thinking of becoming a teacher for some time but it doesn't feel right. But still I can't figure out what else i would like to do . But yeah, people centered for me too.
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Sat, March 22, 2008 - 4:36 AM
    Im presently a full time mother but for when my son is a little older im looking either into going back to university (id like to do an Art and Design course, or if thats not a possibility, to resume the archaeology course i was studying in the past) or open my own shop selling cross stitch supplies.

    I absolutely adore cross stitching, and would like to start designing my own charts in the future. However ive never studied art before so dont know if id be any good at it. Im presently teaching myself to draw in my spare time, in between stitching things for friends and family. The other option i was toying was using photography, taking a photograph, editing it and then converting the picture into a chart using a computer programme i have.

    Anyway if that doesnt happen and i dont turn out to be any good at it, then opening a shop specialising in cross stitch supplies is something id enjoy as well.

    As for resuming the archaology, i just love studying, and it was an interesting subject.
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Mon, March 24, 2008 - 4:04 PM
    I plan on getting my MBA in 4-5 years to pursue management and human resource consulting. I have always though in terms of maximizing my impact and it makes sense for me to be attracted to institutions and politics. I don't mean to knock on people in health professions, that is not my intent, but what kept me from going into those professions was that they are, by nature, limited by the time, and there are only 24 hours in a day. I wanted to opt for a profession that least restrictive. I'm interested to find what roles people like us play in the corporate setting.
    • Re: what do you do for a living??

      Thu, June 26, 2008 - 11:13 PM
      After finding this site and reading all of your posts, for some reason I feel like I can breathe deeply again. Thanks..

      I'm currently go to college, majoring in English, minoring in psychology. My love is writing. I also like oil painting. Since i was a child I wanted to be a psychologist, but the more I thought about it, the more I worried that I would become too emotionally involved/attached to the people I helped and maybe become overwhelmed (?), I dont know if thats the right word...

      My dream job is to become a novelist...
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        Sat, June 28, 2008 - 10:15 AM
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          Sat, June 28, 2008 - 1:04 PM
          Hee. Everyone else is a big wig.

          I'm an 'administrative assistant'...if you prefer, I'm more of an executive assistant for a sem-big-wig. I have my own office attached to my boss', I had it painted baby blue. I'm mostly left to do my own thing, with requests from various co-workers to do little projects for them.

          It's a pretty sweet setup, actually.
      • Re: what do you do for a living??

        Mon, June 30, 2008 - 2:11 AM
        Hmm i was studing Mechatronics in Germany for a while and then i didn't felt motivated anymore by the vision of the profession; i was looking more forward into interacting with people and help them in some way, pretty much enneagram type 2 if u know what i mean...
        So i decided to go to England and study Social Psychology with Philosophy.
        We will see how that goes..
        • Re: what do you do for a living??

          Wed, July 2, 2008 - 7:41 AM
          hmm yes very interesting to hear there are so many therapists out there! I studied international relations and law, basically because I enjoyed my foreign languages at school and I was interested in justice, helping people and debating big issues. But also because I was pressured by my parents and school. I felt like I never had any chance to work out for myself what I wanted to do. Right now I'm working for an international organisation on corruption/organised crime and justice reform, and at first it was wonderful, but a reorganisation has led to the exact same comment someone posted earlier "cut out all the adjectives...." It should be a great opportunity for my career but I am not enjoying it much, so I am taking it one day at a time til the contract ends or til I get a better idea....
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      Re: what do you do for a living??

      Wed, July 23, 2008 - 6:49 PM
      Godwin,
      I am an engineer with an MBA and went into management consulting. I have found it an excellent fit - but it was not easy getting in, and I am the only INFJ in my firm. The consulting recruiting process is geared towards "NT"s - particularly ENTJs and INTJs. As an INFJ, having introverted intuition AND introverted thinking is a double whammy that makes getting through case interviews a real ordeal -- until I got through enough of them to feel comfortable with the process, interviewers found me to be less immediately decisive and straightforward as other candidates. My advice is buckle down with the studies, practice case interviews and apply to as many firms as you can.

      If you get into the business, you may face a steep learning curve and find it mentally draining for the same reasons the interview process is difficult. But where I have really found my niche, and you might too, is in taking apart complex problems, envisioning creative solutions, empathizing with clients and writing top notch presentations. Team management is not my strength (I fail to delegate, hate giving criticism and have trouble giving people concrete / direct guidance) but make up for it with the other stuff. Interestingly, I have found that I work really well with clients in the public sector, especially visionary ones. This might be a nice intersection for you too given your interests. Good luck!
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Thu, July 3, 2008 - 5:57 PM
    another therapist.. did my undergrad in polisci and women's studies..took a year off and then did my MSW 15 years ago.. it is a good fit.
    • Re: what do you do for a living??

      Fri, July 4, 2008 - 5:26 AM
      seeing as we have so many therapists, just wondering if anyone here started out as a therapist and then changed to become something else? I have a colleague who I thought might be an INFJ for a while, til I found out he started out working as a counsellor, and then went into human resources, and now works for us, so that's what started me wondering...
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Sat, July 5, 2008 - 2:23 PM
    Not in the work force as such, for more than 20 years. I work very privately at home as an artist(painting and digital arts). I just don't the personality to be "out there tooting my own horn" either, especially when people ask me what I'm doing to promote my art(nothing at the moment). At this point in time, it's a huge accomplishment just to get back to painting, as for a time, my husband and I had to move nearly 15 times within a 3.5 year period, and I need lots of time to recouperate from that. We've been in our present location for nearly two years, and I still feel this need. Right now, I'm not worrying about marketing, selling or anything else. I still feel like I'm undergoing some other larger inner process anyway, and I miss my shamanic energy practitioner terribly at the moment....
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Mon, July 21, 2008 - 8:52 PM
    Well I have done quite a few things but nothing I ever wanted to do. Currently I own a small store which I have paid off outright even at the age of 23. It provides me with a six figure income even tho I had no help getting into this store and also no college at all, something very few people could say with my back round. Honestly tho, I hate it as I feel very tied down. The job that I would like to do most would be a teacher, as I absolutely love to teach. To myself, I really feel as I haven't done anything in many ways because doing something I want to do is much more valuable than any money I make doing something. But as someone that was forced into work at way to young of an age this is where I have ended up. One reason I have done as I have, is because of my infj personality, it provides me insight to which business ventures will be good and which ones not, it also provides me with a natural drive and relaxed feel about hard work.

    One thing that made school very hard for me and why I don't have a college degree is that I couldn't hear at all until i was 5 making writing something very hard for me and thus writing in college an absolute nightmare. While my language skills may not have come along as they may considering my personality type, I instead received some very interesting math skills, as one could say math was my first language. Possibly my writing skills are just fine, but I am simply to self absorbed or have too little confidence as my desire to be perfect is too great and I am simply being too hard on myself, or too sensitive of others opinions.
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Fri, August 29, 2008 - 10:32 AM
    Hi I’m an INFJ in England who has just discovered all these wonderful like minds from around the world – what a great surprise. I know all INFJs obsess about their calling and careers for their whole life, but sometimes I think I am simply subconsciously working my way through every job listed in the INFJ section of a careers book!

    My first degree was Environmental Science and I worked as a writer, designer and editor for about 15 years, moving into all sorts of publishing and communications roles. I loved the words and stories I got to tell but hated the competitive work environment, the duplicity of my colleagues and the NOISE of it all.

    So about 7 years ago I quit a well paid communications job to retrain. My parents were appalled – my Dad said “but it’s got a good pension” – I was 30 at the time, but he genuinely seemed to think there was nothing wrong with me staying in the same job for the next 35 years just to take advantage of that!

    I took postgraduate qualifications, firstly in Digital Media and then in Acting. I loved both audio and film-making and the acting in terms of what you have to do but, again, hated the people you have to work with. At drama school my tutor told us we had to go for any job and do anything to get on in acting. I pointed out that I was not in the least bit interested in acting in anything I didn’t believe in- I was passionate about affecting the audience and myself through the work, not in becoming famous. He just snorted and said I’d never get anywhere. He was right – but through my choice – having met many more people like him, I decided that performance was too soul destroying for me.

    And there’s the problem: I love to write, act, draw and communicate stories in all forms, and have been fortunate to have been told I am pretty good at all these things by people I respect. But I HATE using them solely for someone else’s commercial gain. It makes me loose a little of my love for the medium itself.

    I’ve tried coaching and drama therapy, but I get too involved. I’ve worked with people with disabilities, but I can’t forget them at the end of the day. Mindless jobs like typing and organising are fine for a month or so, but then I loose pride in myself and worry I’m not doing what I ‘should’ be doing.

    I see the same thing in so many of your posts. You choose a career because of your passion to change and help, and then are worn down and disillusioned as no-one you work with seems to care. How do they all motivate themselves to get up in the morning, I wonder?

    So I continue to muddle through, trying to find my path. But, I am truly grateful for my lot - I have a husband I adore, a decent family and I like myself. And all of your posts give me hope that there are others like me and maybe, one day, we’ll all meet and start an enterprise together to open people’s hearts and minds.

    Sorry that's so long! It's my first ever post and it just kind of spilled out...
    • Re: what do you do for a living??

      Sun, August 31, 2008 - 8:19 AM
      Hi Nicola,
      I can relate to your anguish about choosing a career, though in fact I'm still close to the beginning of mine! As I wrote somewhere above, I've been working in an international organisation on fighting corruption etc, and whilst I was happy enough doing that, it was often hard to feel that we were making any difference. Recently my contract came to an end, and now I'm out looking for something else. A lot of the job ads out there are things I COULD do, and I would do well even, but I would be miserable in these "ordinary jobs". I've considered other fields like communications, counseling and 'social justice" but I've never managed to convince myself that the retraining would be worth the effort. As for colleagues, they are always an important (yet unpredictable) part of the equation. So far the best I had was a group who were around the same age and nice, inclusive even, but distant- as though they were including me out of politeness instead of a geniune desire to have me there...I despair of ever finding a job that feels like a good fit, but I don't exactly want to resign myself to a life of "ordinary jobs" like tax law or typing either!!
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        Wed, September 10, 2008 - 4:16 AM
        Hi Hidley
        I agree with everything you've said, though it sounds like you've done a lot of interesting, worthwhile work already! I notice you do contract work, which I do too - it keeps options open, I guess. At the moment I am trying to get a couple of different part-time jobs that will use different skills, with the aim of supporting more creative work of my own - that's the plan anyway, but life has a knack of getting in the way...
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          Sun, October 5, 2008 - 8:43 AM
          heheh thanks! Guess I tend not to give myself much credit! Your part-time jobs idea sounds like a good way to stay sane if your creative endeavours are more what you enjoy doing but (presumably) won't make a career on their own... And if you have a few different things going on at once that certainly keeps your options open...I think in my case I am just in limbo- in need of a new obsession ;-)
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            Tue, October 14, 2008 - 11:14 PM
            Jumping in late here... I've been involved in some aspect of print/publishing media for years; I've done newspaper and magazine photography (back to hobby status with photography for now), prepress, tech documentation and writing. Right now, I'm working as a graphic designer for a small company. It's an area where I've had only a bit of experience. But it's a good op to build a portfolio and get design experience. I'm planning to go back to school for anthropology and digital/new media next year.
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Wed, December 24, 2008 - 1:00 AM
    WOW!!! What a great group of people! I'm proud to be an INFJ!

    Currently, I, like a lot of you, are in limbo. I'm playing as a professional tubist in the houston area. I've played in the Kingwood Pops Orchestra, The Housotn Symphony North, and the Houston Grand Opera. I play quintet gigs on the weekends at churches (no free chicken, though) and a wedding here and there. Teaching is another story. 95% of the time you get the kids who's parents drop them off at the band hall after soccer practice and take off to run arrands (as if they're saying, "Make him better!" as they're driving off). Those are the kids that have absolutly no motivation to succede in music. Every once in awhile you'll get someone with an interest...but it's rare. It's monumentally frustrating. I don't care how much they pay me - I can't make the kid better if he doesn't want to get better. Depressing as well. Definetly a challenge.
    I thought about getting a degree in music, but am now convinced, with all circumstances applied, $$$, that it would not cover medical bills (as in - The union doesn't offer insurance-). I'm going back to school to study (breeze through) network engineering in hopes of finding an IT position at a nice, big, fat cooperation that has a nice medical plan that can pay for my 11 different psych. meds. It'd also be nice to have a job with normal hours...--==time of this post 2:56 am==--
    My career choice is limited by a number of factors and I can't afford to be choosy, but if I could; Definitly....Therapist.
  • Re: what do you do for a living??

    Fri, December 26, 2008 - 10:59 AM
    Quite a few things, it started in childhood trying to raise a little bit of cash by selling items and candy. I've always leaned toward becoming self-employed, but I haven't found true success at it.

    As an artist, I have been a T-Shirt Painter, Illustrator, Graphic Designer (by far my longest job), and now a Mural Painter, and soon a Teacher. But I have also been a Waitress, a Telemarketer, a Security Supervisor, Convience Store clerk, Customer Service Rep, Receptionist, and a Rural Carrier for the US Post Awful.

    I am a writer who has been published, but I have yet to be paid.

    My passion is my religion, I am a priestess and I have been running a Wiccan and Pagan Temple for the past 13 years, and I run its large festival as well. I teach, I lead ritual, and I organize most everything. It suits me as a "Jill of all trades." I also did prison clergy visitations for five years.

    I ran my own Witchcraft store for several years, but had to close it due to divorce and the recession. I still read tarot for my former customers, and quite frankly, it was my skill with the cards that kept it going. I am also a Reiki Master, and I teach it as well.

    www.myspace.com/aliciafolberth
    • Re: what do you do for a living??

      Tue, February 24, 2009 - 7:22 PM
      I'm currently studying philosophy...with an eye on either going into law or teaching. Quite interested in going into politics at some point as well.
      My part-time job last year was writing for the university news paper.
      Before going back to school I was working as chef.
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    Re: what do you do for a living??

    Wed, February 25, 2009 - 6:43 AM
    I'm a floor director, audio engineer and camera operator for a local tv news staion. It goes totally against my personality but that's what makes it exciting. Luckily I just have to deal with my co-workers and not much with the public! In the past I've been a barista, a server and even a retail clerk at a porn store. I hated all those jobs.

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