Being Too Opinionated

topic posted Mon, November 27, 2006 - 8:23 PM by  Litestorm
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Has anyone in this group been ostracized for being too opinionated?
Does anyone wish to share any experiences of being cast out.
Is it common for INFJs to be the Odd Man out because of their unique viewpoint?
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Litestorm
SF Bay Area
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  • Re: Being Too Opinionated

    Tue, November 28, 2006 - 11:46 AM
    I wouldn't go so far as to say that I have been ostracized for being "opinionated" (If I understand corrrectly how you're using the term) but more for having opinions nobody could readily relate to, nor understand how I came up with.

    It reminds me a bit of my high school dynamic-- I was both "athletic" and "scholastic," but instead of feeling liked by both groups, the "jocks" didn't want anything to do with me because I was "smart and did homework," and the "brain" didn't want me around because I "played sports."

    --Peter
    • Re: Being Too Opinionated

      Wed, November 29, 2006 - 11:01 PM
      I would catch a lot of flack for finding unorthodox ways to defend an orthodox conclusion.
      Traditionalists would criticize me by saying the way they have done it is always the best
      and I should not second guess them. Radicals would reject me for coming to the wrong conclusion.

      Peter ,
      Ouch! Both Athletic and Brainy.. Thats is unfair to have it all....of course they hated you... <Evil Grin>
      The real "prodigies" would do their best to "hide" one quality or another.
      Play an esoteric sport (in my school it was golf) or Play dumb in class but score well on the tests...
      • Re: Being Too Opinionated

        Tue, December 5, 2006 - 11:05 AM
        Yeah, well....

        I *did* play golf... and tennis, and ran cross country, and was in track & field. The "genuine" team sports were just too cliqueish.

        Back then, I hid a lot... but truth be known, I'd rather find my "tribe" of seven people than "hide."
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    Re: Being Too Opinionated

    Thu, November 30, 2006 - 6:05 AM
    I would always have a desire to defend the underdog. When someone is trying to tell me their point of view and insisting that they are right, I would always find myself sympathizing with the other party, and trying to see things from their prespective, because I feel their viewpoint seems underrepresented in the conversation. That has ticked off my husband quiet a number of times, and half the time I don't realize what I'm doing until I've done it. But in a group setting? I don't I have the courage because I know they would eat me alive.
  • Re: Being Too Opinionated

    Thu, December 7, 2006 - 3:41 PM
    I find myself not particularly ostracized for being opinionated, it's not as if I express them in the way of a Calvinist Zealot or an equally heavy handed Bolshevic.

    I find myself ostracized by some because to me the process of arriving at the opinions I reach is more important to me than the opinions themselves. Because, essentially, the devil is in the details and by letting people know the process by which I arrived at my opinions I can gain valuable insights from them as to things I may have missed or misunderstood which could change my opinions. Some people understand my intent, and are happy that their feedback in going through the process (and I don't just say mine I want to look closely at theirs) really means something to me, that I'm not going to be dismissive.

    But to others, it's just a bore. Particularly with those who formed their opinions based on emotion driven pundits across the political or religious spectrum. So with some people I am ostracized, people that are more emotion driven and don't like to question their own assumptions... even as I'm questioning my own right in front of them. As a result, there are some people from all kinds of points of view that really embrace me if they are just as commited to understanding the process by which they arrived at their opinions and we have great debates.... and others may really ostracize me because what they seem to want to be some stereotype of "liberal" or "conservative" as if it was being either a Capulet or Montague because they are so emotion driven.
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    Re: Being Too Opinionated

    Wed, December 13, 2006 - 8:39 PM
    ohhh......let's just say there are lots of people who don't like me because of my opinions. lol
    I am very opinionated, but I try to be polite about it, and I enjoy listening to the viewpoints of others who oppose me. I create waves sometimes because I do stand up for what I believe in, and it usually isn't what main society wants to hear. :o)
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    Re: Being Too Opinionated

    Thu, December 28, 2006 - 7:51 PM
    Opinionated I am, but I've learned to keep what I think to myself...for my own well-being and everyday success if not for any other reason.
    I can't say I've ever been cast out so much as just not invited in in the first place...mainly for not expressing myself as per the first line. To be honest, I don't make much effort at trying to be in groups that might 'cast me out' for who I am.

    And, this is the very judgment we're discussing, if such a group casts those out who make them question their reality then as far as I see it more power to both them and me if I avoid them in any way not related to 'business'.

    I'm not known for 'candy coating' my responses. LOL. I figure, if you don't want a truth, you shouldn't ask for one. I won't blantantly say things I know will hurt people though. Did that too much younger; hurt works both ways. The important part in my mind is that I don't go about impressing this way on everyone. It's who I am. If we click, cool. If not, do your thing...just don't force us to do your thing too; know what I mean?

    Bleh. Just my pennies worth...
  • Re: Being Too Opinionated

    Fri, May 9, 2008 - 3:42 AM
    Hard to say. I find others tend to be more opinionated than me. People either appreciate or ostracize me for being objective, depending on who's doing the asking. I have opinions. I'm pretty straight forward with them but tactful at the same time. I have been known to go off the deep end when someone really crossed the line, and that's rare. Usually in those cases, dogmatic pride that leads to integrity breakdown and getting someone else hurt get my goat. Be it you pauper or prince, watch out.
    • Re: Being Too Opinionated

      Fri, May 9, 2008 - 7:54 AM
      I can relate to most of the above responses! I don't consider myself to be particularly opinionated - I think I'm open-minded in the sense that, when I've come to a conclusion, I will stick with it (otherwise what's the point of having concluded something, but I have no problem changing my mind after further reflection - kind of "hang on tightly, let go lightly". It surprises me when others say I'm opinionated or judgemental, when they have just as many opinions annd make as many judgements about things as I do. Perhaps it's because, as someone suggested above, my opinions/judgements are different from the 'majority viewpoint', so they may stand out more - maybe it's easy not to think you're being judgemental if you accept common, mainstream judgements... Or maybe, because as an introvert I work out my opinions internally in advance of expressing them, I could come across (to extroverts, who work things out by talking/doing) as overly sure of myself (though again, I'm open to changing my mind or being proved wrong).

      I also agree with what someone said about liking the process/details of reaching an opinion/judgement, and having this seem boring to some.
      • Re: Being Too Opinionated

        Mon, May 19, 2008 - 8:02 AM
        I have loads of opinions based on my experiences and those of my friends. I fail to see why this is a problem, though I suppose a lot of people don't really want to hear my opinion if it differs from theirs.

        Eh, no biggie. Think of it as a 2 for one special: Your opinions, and you get mine for free!

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