Gesturing with your hands while you speak

topic posted Tue, October 6, 2009 - 9:28 AM by  shifting4now
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I think it's called "gesticulating" or...I just wanted to say that word :D
www.psychologytoday.com/blog/u...t-words

I move my hands quite a bit when I talk and I seem to also be very dramatic with my facial expressions. I don't have a very good poker face, I can't hide how I feel even if I tried. Most times I have no idea that I am making a face about something or that I am basically physically acting acting out my words and emotions with my hands while I speak.
I am curious if this could be an INFJ trait and if any one else does this.

I got really experimental and I have been video taping little blogs of myself and then watching them and it's fascinating to see a different perspective and how a lot of my information is conveyed and what other people are perceiving. So I noticed I am very animated when I am talking about something I WANT to talk about.
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  • Ed
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    Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

    Tue, October 6, 2009 - 4:59 PM
    This is probably 93% true of me. I am very passionate and go all out.

    I hate when others give half effort to a cause or project. I just feel that they are not committed and therefore should leave. My hand gestures come out prominently when I tell them to leave at a juncture such as this.
    • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

      Tue, October 6, 2009 - 5:31 PM
      That's not quite what I meant by "gesturing with your hands" but yeah... LOL. I tend to "go all out" when I'm frustrated with others also. This happens a lot in traffic actually. :D
      • Ed
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        Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

        Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:45 PM
        Why are we the only people talking to each other Shif?
        • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

          Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:49 PM
          I think they are taking a nap? I have no idea. Maybe we just aren't talking about something a lot of people have much interest in? Maybe I don't have a life? I have no idea. The possibilities are endless : /
          • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

            Wed, October 7, 2009 - 7:18 PM
            Hi guys, I've been away being neurotically engrossed in my term paper on motherboards and the exciting studies into the world of hard drives (neurotic in the sense that I get so frustrated when I am new to something...and with my obsession with asking WHY and wanting to know it all NOW it happens too often).

            Anyway, there are few facial expression or body movements that I do that aren't modulated in some way. Since I watch others so much and can read their subtle movements I've always incorporated that into viewing myself, and deciding how I wish to appear to the outside world (don't know if that is INFJ as it sounds different from you guys, it could just be hyper-vigilance from rough childhood). Extroverts I can usually read much easier but other INFJ's. I often can't get a beat on what many introverts are thinking (especially older ones) until they come out with it verbally.

            Ed, have you taken an Enneagram test before? I don't remember if I asked you that question. But a few things you said sounded almost exactly like some of the people on Enneagram 4 panels..
  • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

    Tue, October 13, 2009 - 12:33 PM
    I have no poker face, either. Even when I think I do, people still say "what's wrong" or something that obviously indicates I have failed to hide my emotions! Or I catch sight of myself in a random mirror and notice a facial expression I don't know I'm making. People have told me they "like to watch" my face when I'm thinking...I don't quite get that - maybe it's entertaining??

    I don't know so much about gesticulating...I think that mostly happens when I'm upset.
    • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

      Tue, October 13, 2009 - 5:32 PM
      "People have told me they "like to watch" my face when I'm thinking...I don't quite get that - maybe it's entertaining?? "
      I understand that, anon124, I like watching people who are so open faced like that because its amazing to see feelings and thoughts processes so clearly across a persons face. My husband does it and it is fascinating, like seeing his thought process in motion and kind of refreshing to see someone that unguarded.
      • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

        Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:14 AM
        Oh...I see. Glad it's refreshing, but dangerous! Argh. I understand now why people try so hard to stay guarded.

        I'm told my eyes dilate a ridiculous amount too, when I'm upset or watching something emotional on TV. My boyfriend and I compared ours after watching some dramatic stuff, and I looked totally high (which I wasn't) and his weren't dilated too much. Just thought it was weird...is it something to do with my lack of control over emotions? Or with empathy maybe.
        • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

          Fri, October 16, 2009 - 10:52 AM
          I wonder about that too, anon.

          I think there are a few reasons people don't show their emotions as easily as others. One reason is growing up in a rough neighborhood or family - a show of emotions could be an excuse for attack. The schooling of the expressions could be conscious or unconscious and could tell you that someone is either adjusting their expressions on purpose or has actually shut down their emotions. And then too, some types are more emotional and externally expressive and others are more intellectual and internally expressive.

          **"I'm told my eyes dilate a ridiculous amount too"**
          LOL, sounds like my cat when she wants to play or my husband when he gets into a new Kung Fu move he wants to try out on me (I know when his eyes dilate I need to tap out because that means he's getting so focused he may forget we are practicing). It is as if the eyes dilating are saying, "I'm 110% into this" (my type A sis and ENTP husband both do this). If you ever feel yourself getting too empathetic, empathic or getting too overwhelmed with whats going you can try this fun experiment: shutter your eyes - bring your focus back inside and maybe lower your lids a bit (fun to practice back and forth - external focus/internal focus). Although, running full open can be a fun ride too! :) but it's nice to have the conscious choice.
          • Ed
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            Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

            Fri, October 16, 2009 - 6:03 PM
            Michelle,

            Shorten your responses and/or bullet point them.

            It is not just you, it is other INFJs as well.

            People will want to read and understand more of what you say if you space it out.
            • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

              Fri, October 16, 2009 - 7:36 PM
              Yeah I hear you Ed, usually I break them down into 4 sentence paragraphs (best for reading online material, according to my past research) , CAPITALIZE , number, or adjust paragraphs in sentences of 3 / 4 / ?.

              Was just tired, tired today so I didn't preview first to make adjustments.
              • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

                Fri, October 16, 2009 - 7:56 PM
                I disagree Ed. I don't need concise bullet point explanations to understand or be interested in in what someone has to say.
                I kinda found that a little out of line, but it could be because:
                1. I am self conscious of the way I communicate and want to be understood.
                2. I don't think that the direct approach is always the best approach.
                3. It's very impolite to correct the way other people choose to communicate unless you are teaching a communications course.

                I just thought that comment was not very thoughtful and I'm not sure how I would feel or respond to someone who said that to me unless it was a research paper assignment and not an online open forum discussion.
                Michelle, you dealt with that much better than I ever would.
                Obviously.



                • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

                  Fri, October 16, 2009 - 8:05 PM
                  Thank you Shifting. I actually am very sensitive to how information is blocked and outputted but if I'm interested it's not as overly important. I just read an very interesting post on another tribe that had 18 line paragraph, lol, that is pretty darn long to go without white space. But was so fascinated with the subject matter (someone's personal journey) that I actually didn't notice. <3
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                    Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

                    Fri, October 16, 2009 - 9:03 PM
                    I actually never give how information is blocked and outputted much thought, except I will say that I prefer to informally communicate in a James Joyce stream of consciousness way, but formally I am painstaking about each and every word, sentence structure and meaning. It would also be ideal if spelling were not such an issue and we all could just let go of the formalities because I generally "know what you mean". Maybe that's an personality attribute also... I have no idea but it frustrates me when people correct others informal communicate with what I think is nit picky'ness.
                    However, if it is formal communication I can be a stickler for the rules and proper etiquette.
                    • Ed
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                      Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

                      Fri, October 16, 2009 - 9:57 PM
                      Once again, Ed regenerates life into the conversation.

                      All I am saying is that INFJs do carefully choose words, which is a good thing only in speech, and not writing.

                      People who do that with writing leave the reader often disinterested and tired of reading.
  • Re: Gesturing with your hands while you speak

    Mon, October 19, 2009 - 3:08 PM
    I know what you mean!! Gesturing with my hands comes completely natural to me when I'm speaking, and apparently facial expressions as well, because many times people point it out to me. It surprised me that I never noticed it before..I don't know how it could have escaped me but it did..

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